| Sysop: | Amessyroom |
|---|---|
| Location: | Fayetteville, NC |
| Users: | 21 |
| Nodes: | 6 (0 / 6) |
| Uptime: | 30:21:28 |
| Calls: | 139 |
| Files: | 91 |
| Messages: | 42,708 |
Was there anything notable, zeitgeist-wise, in SF in the years
around 1968?
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph? >content=struggle%2C%28Frankenstein+*+20%29&year_start=1934&year_end=2019&corpus=en-
US-2019&smoothing=0
(shortened: https://tinyurl.com/az93kexc )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1968_science_fiction_novels
Was there anything notable, zeitgeist-wise, in SF in the years
around 1968?
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph? content=struggle%2C%28Frankenstein+*+20%29&year_start=1934&year_end=2019&corpu
s=en-
US-2019&smoothing=0
(shortened: https://tinyurl.com/az93kexc )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1968_science_fiction_novels
In article <pan$b5463$2413c85a$6a02c9d4$86929b62@cpacker.org>,
Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
Was there anything notable, zeitgeist-wise, in SF in the years
around 1968?
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?
content=struggle%2C%28Frankenstein+*+20%29&year_start=1934&year_end=2019&corpu
s=en-
US-2019&smoothing=0
(shortened: https://tinyurl.com/az93kexc )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1968_science_fiction_novels
I didn't buy very many SF titles (if any) in 1968. I did have access to >libraries and read many library books. I have read many of the 42 titles
in that list from Wikipedia, but, IIRC, not that many of them in 1968.
Was there anything notable, zeitgeist-wise, in SF in the years
around 1968?
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph? content=struggle%2C%28Frankenstein+*+20%29&year_start=1934&year_end=2019&corpus=en-
US-2019&smoothing=0
(shortened: https://tinyurl.com/az93kexc )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1968_science_fiction_novels
Subject: What were you reading in 1968?
In article <pan$b5463$2413c85a$6a02c9d4$86929b62@cpacker.org>,
Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
Subject: What were you reading in 1968?
I believe my parents were dating, but they were not yet married and I
was not yet conceived. This makes me something of a youngster on
Usenet today despite being over 50, which certainly was not the case
when I was 16 and fresh out of high school.
On the other hand, I think I am a bit more judicious in my posting
habits.
I'll be leaving for Worldcon in a few days and I entirely expect to
feel thoroughly middle-aged there, sandwiched in between the Young
People and the American retirees.
-GAWollman
1968 ... Junior high, then. I'd read a bunch of Hardy Boys
books, one or two of which had SFNal elements in them. (The
Mad Scientist (TM) with the freeze ray, for instance.)
Several Tom Swift Jr. novels. One "Rick Brant", which I--
thought was kind of "meh", and never looked for any more.
The "Mike Mars" books. What little was in the junior high
library, which did include Heinlein's "Have Spacesuit,
Will Travel." Some Ace Doubles, one of which included "Dome
Around America" and "The Paradox Men".
About this same time frame, I read "Soldier, Ask Not", which
I also kind of bounced off of.
The town library had Analog Annuals, and a few Best Of
anthologies, but I'm fuzzy on the time frame of when I
got into those.
Was there anything notable, zeitgeist-wise, in SF in the years
around 1968?
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph? content=struggle%2C%28Frankenstein+*+20%29&year_start=1934&year_end=2019&corpus=en-
US-2019&smoothing=0
(shortened: https://tinyurl.com/az93kexc )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1968_science_fiction_novels
Was there anything notable, zeitgeist-wise, in SF in the years
around 1968?
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph? content=struggle%2C%28Frankenstein+*+20%29&year_start=1934&year_end=2019&corpus=en-
US-2019&smoothing=0
(shortened: https://tinyurl.com/az93kexc )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1968_science_fiction_novels
I'll be leaving for Worldcon in a few days and I entirely expect to
feel thoroughly middle-aged there, sandwiched in between the Young
People and the American retirees.
Charles Packer wrote:
Was there anything notable, zeitgeist-wise, in SF in the years
around 1968?
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?
content=struggle%2C%28Frankenstein+*+20%29&year_start=1934&year_end=2019&corpus=en-
US-2019&smoothing=0
(shortened: https://tinyurl.com/az93kexc )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1968_science_fiction_novels
As far as fiction is concerned:
LOTR, Stand On Zanzibar, Wollheim&Carr 67, TMIAHM Glory Road, Starship >Troopers (rereads), Foundation, 2001, The Languages of Pao, To live
Forever, the Blue world, Gladiator at law, Search the Sky. The Last
Starship from Earth.
Those I am pretty sure of. LOTR absolutely.
Plus whatever Anderson, Dickson or Herbert came out with that year. And >probably other rereads, Dune, Earthlight, The Caves of Steel, etc, and a >dozen anthologies.
I raided my parent's book collection also. A Neville Shute novel went
down well, but I abandoned Marlowe' Faust partway through.
I would have been checking books out of the small town school library so >anything I was reading in 68 wouldn't have been published in 68. Or 67,
or 66 and maybe a couple year before.[1] Well, there may have been the
rare exception in the drugstore revolving book rack that I convinced Mom
to buy.
On 7/29/2024 12:23 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Jay E. Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
I would have been checking books out of the small town school library so >>> anything I was reading in 68 wouldn't have been published in 68. Or 67,
or 66 and maybe a couple year before.[1] Well, there may have been the
rare exception in the drugstore revolving book rack that I convinced Mom >>> to buy.
My elementary school had a small library but one that had been
excellently-curated some time in the 1920s and not really updated
since then. I thought this was very cool and read a lot of Jules
Verne and
souvenir booklets from the Sesquicentennial.
Then I discovered that in the attic of the school were stacks of books
that had been removed from the library, including a full set of the
original Tom Swift books. These probably didn't have quite the effect
that they would have had on the original readers, since the idea of
building your own cars and airplanes was not as farfetched as when the
books were originally written. But I think this might have made them
more appealing since they were relatively achievable fantasies. I have
since then built my own car out of scrap parts.
--scott
"Johnny Cash - One Piece at a Time (Official Audio)"
https://www.ttgnet.com/journal/2024/07/29/mon-july-29-2024-busy-day-today/
Jay E. Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
I would have been checking books out of the small town school library so >>anything I was reading in 68 wouldn't have been published in 68. Or 67,
or 66 and maybe a couple year before.[1] Well, there may have been the
rare exception in the drugstore revolving book rack that I convinced Mom
to buy.
My elementary school had a small library but one that had been >excellently-curated some time in the 1920s and not really updated
since then. I thought this was very cool and read a lot of Jules Verne and >souvenir booklets from the Sesquicentennial.
Then I discovered that in the attic of the school were stacks of books
that had been removed from the library, including a full set of the
original Tom Swift books. These probably didn't have quite the effect
that they would have had on the original readers, since the idea of
building your own cars and airplanes was not as farfetched as when the
books were originally written. But I think this might have made them
more appealing since they were relatively achievable fantasies. I have
since then built my own car out of scrap parts.
--scott
On 7/30/2024 2:18 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
In article <v88j68$84c$1@panix2.panix.com>,
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Jay E. Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
I would have been checking books out of the small town school library so >>>> anything I was reading in 68 wouldn't have been published in 68. Or 67, >>>> or 66 and maybe a couple year before.[1] Well, there may have been the >>>> rare exception in the drugstore revolving book rack that I convinced Mom >>>> to buy.
My elementary school had a small library but one that had been
excellently-curated some time in the 1920s and not really updated
since then. I thought this was very cool and read a lot of Jules Verne and >>> souvenir booklets from the Sesquicentennial.
Then I discovered that in the attic of the school were stacks of books
that had been removed from the library, including a full set of the
original Tom Swift books. These probably didn't have quite the effect
that they would have had on the original readers, since the idea of
building your own cars and airplanes was not as farfetched as when the
books were originally written. But I think this might have made them
more appealing since they were relatively achievable fantasies. I have
since then built my own car out of scrap parts.
--scott
They started out pretty prosaic with just a motorcycle, but eventually
Tom was doing Skytrains, through-the-walls "Television Detector"s
and electric bullets.
Don't confuse Tom Swift Jr & Sr. Tom pere started with 'Tom Swift and
his Motorcycle', in the first series, 1910-1941.
In 1954 we get Tom fils, That's the one I remember, with the series >continuing up to 1971.
The third seriew, 1981-1984, is ambiguous whether we're dealing with
Jr, or Tem Swift III.
The latest series (6th) brings us up to 2022, so 'Victor Appleton'
(sometimes V.A II) has been cranking them out for over 120 years. :-)
On 7/30/2024 2:18 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
In article <v88j68$84c$1@panix2.panix.com>,
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Jay E. Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
I would have been checking books out of the small town school library so >>>> anything I was reading in 68 wouldn't have been published in 68. Or 67, >>>> or 66 and maybe a couple year before.[1] Well, there may have been the >>>> rare exception in the drugstore revolving book rack that I convinced Mom >>>> to buy.
My elementary school had a small library but one that had been
excellently-curated some time in the 1920s and not really updated
since then. I thought this was very cool and read a lot of Jules Verne and >>> souvenir booklets from the Sesquicentennial.
Then I discovered that in the attic of the school were stacks of books
that had been removed from the library, including a full set of the
original Tom Swift books. These probably didn't have quite the effect
that they would have had on the original readers, since the idea of
building your own cars and airplanes was not as farfetched as when the
books were originally written. But I think this might have made them
more appealing since they were relatively achievable fantasies. I have
since then built my own car out of scrap parts.
--scott
They started out pretty prosaic with just a motorcycle, but eventually
Tom was doing Skytrains, through-the-walls "Television Detector"s
and electric bullets.
Don't confuse Tom Swift Jr & Sr. Tom pere started with 'Tom Swift and
his Motorcycle', in the first series, 1910-1941.
In 1954 we get Tom fils, That's the one I remember, with the series >continuing up to 1971.
The third seriew, 1981-1984, is ambiguous whether we're dealing with
Jr, or Tem Swift III.
The latest series (6th) brings us up to 2022, so 'Victor Appleton'
(sometimes V.A II) has been cranking them out for over 120 years. :-)
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
On 7/30/2024 2:18 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
In article <v88j68$84c$1@panix2.panix.com>,
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Jay E. Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
I would have been checking books out of the small town school library so >>>>> anything I was reading in 68 wouldn't have been published in 68. Or 67, >>>>> or 66 and maybe a couple year before.[1] Well, there may have been the >>>>> rare exception in the drugstore revolving book rack that I convinced Mom >>>>> to buy.
My elementary school had a small library but one that had been
excellently-curated some time in the 1920s and not really updated
since then. I thought this was very cool and read a lot of Jules Verne and
souvenir booklets from the Sesquicentennial.
Then I discovered that in the attic of the school were stacks of books >>>> that had been removed from the library, including a full set of the
original Tom Swift books. These probably didn't have quite the effect >>>> that they would have had on the original readers, since the idea of
building your own cars and airplanes was not as farfetched as when the >>>> books were originally written. But I think this might have made them
more appealing since they were relatively achievable fantasies. I have >>>> since then built my own car out of scrap parts.
--scott
They started out pretty prosaic with just a motorcycle, but eventually
Tom was doing Skytrains, through-the-walls "Television Detector"s
and electric bullets.
Don't confuse Tom Swift Jr & Sr. Tom pere started with 'Tom Swift and
his Motorcycle', in the first series, 1910-1941.
In 1954 we get Tom fils, That's the one I remember, with the series >>continuing up to 1971.
The third seriew, 1981-1984, is ambiguous whether we're dealing with
Jr, or Tem Swift III.
The latest series (6th) brings us up to 2022, so 'Victor Appleton' >>(sometimes V.A II) has been cranking them out for over 120 years. :-)
And don't forget the short-lived recent streaming TV series. I didn't
watch past the first ep.
I grew up on the TS Jr books, myself.
Was there anything notable, zeitgeist-wise, in SF in the years
around 1968?
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph? content=struggle%2C%28Frankenstein+*+20%29&year_start=1934&year_end=2019&corpus=en-
US-2019&smoothing=0
(shortened: https://tinyurl.com/az93kexc )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1968_science_fiction_novels
On 7/27/24 00:59, Charles Packer wrote:
Was there anything notable, zeitgeist-wise, in SF in the years
around 1968?
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?
content=struggle%2C%28Frankenstein+*+20%29&year_start=1934&year_end=2019&corpus=en-
US-2019&smoothing=0
(shortened: https://tinyurl.com/az93kexc )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1968_science_fiction_novels
I don't think I had discovered SF yet. I do remember reading a lot of
Hardy Boys from a complete (I believe) collection my great uncle had and
gave to my dad. I could put one of those away in an afternoon. It beat
going outside into the Houston heat, humidity, fire ants, and mosquitos.
Was there anything notable, zeitgeist-wise, in SF in the years
around 1968?
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph? >content=struggle%2C%28Frankenstein+*+20%29&year_start=1934&year_end=2019&corpus=en-
US-2019&smoothing=0
(shortened: https://tinyurl.com/az93kexc )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1968_science_fiction_novels
In article <v8j46d$2u1li$1@dont-email.me>,
Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
One "Rick Brant", which I
thought was kind of "meh", and never looked for any more.
Don't know which RB you read, but in general they were awesome,
and better written than the TS & HB books (which I also loved).
1968 ... Junior high, then. I'd read a bunch of Hardy Boys
books, one or two of which had SFNal elements in them. (The
Mad Scientist (TM) with the freeze ray, for instance.)
Several Tom Swift Jr. novels. One "Rick Brant", which I
thought was kind of "meh", and never looked for any more.
The "Mike Mars" books. What little was in the junior high
library, which did include Heinlein's "Have Spacesuit,
Will Travel." Some Ace Doubles, one of which included "Dome
Around America" and "The Paradox Men".
1968 ... Junior high, then. I'd read a bunch of Hardy Boys
books, one or two of which had SFNal elements in them. (The
Mad Scientist (TM) with the freeze ray, for instance.)
Several Tom Swift Jr. novels. One "Rick Brant", which I
thought was kind of "meh", and never looked for any more.
The "Mike Mars" books. What little was in the junior high
library, which did include Heinlein's "Have Spacesuit,
Will Travel." Some Ace Doubles, one of which included "Dome
Around America" and "The Paradox Men".
About this same time frame, I read "Soldier, Ask Not", which
I also kind of bounced off of.