• Re: OT: Language etc. Was

    From Phil Carmody@21:1/5 to shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com on Sat Jul 13 12:58:04 2024
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 11/07/2024 9:06 am, Dumas Walker wrote:
    As a member of the last UK generation to have gone to a Grammar School
    (11+ anyone?) I'm trying to be more Zen about American 'English' but
    it's a struggle. Especially as a huge number of non-English speakers are >>> learning 'English' from American media content.

    As an American, that last bit also concerns me, especially if it is social >> media content.

    Yeah, that's a big thing that's happening - and a huge can of worms
    that doesn't just affect language. (For instance right wing nutters
    here in New Zealand wear MAGA caps etc. <shakes head in despair>)

    Make Australia Great Again?

    Phil
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  • From Bob Latham@21:1/5 to shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com on Sat Jul 13 21:13:41 2024
    In article <v6q3ac$2rau5$1@dont-email.me>,
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

    (For instance right wing nutters here in New Zealand wear MAGA caps
    etc. <shakes head in despair>)

    Forgive me but why does someone holding a different POV from you make
    them a nutter?

    For me it is hard not to question the sanity of the the UK left given
    that:

    They supports Hamas terrorists sympathy marches through London each
    weekend calling for the extermination of a race from the river to the
    sea. Neither group hiding their racism and anti-semitic hatred of
    Jews.

    A subset of the above "Queers for Palestine" don't seem to have any
    clue what would happen to them were they to visit their beloved
    Palestine. Getting thrown off the roof of a building or hanged from a
    crane is the normal response. Turkeys voting for christmas.

    Our new Energy minister shuts down our North sea oil and gas
    exploration in favour of transporting fuels from distant countries at
    greater expense and increased CO2 output. In so doing costing
    thousands of UK jobs and destroying our energy independence and
    supply security. Thinks he can do netzero by 2030.
    This is somehow supposed to fix the none existent climate crisis.

    One of our new ministers suggests biological men can grow a cervix.

    Another tells us that some women have a penis.

    Another minister tells us that the definition of a woman depends on
    the context.

    That is just in the first week of our new wonderful government.

    However, I fully understand your deep concern about people wearing
    MAGA caps, real nutters you have my sympathy.

    Bob.

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to petrolcan on Sun Jul 14 18:38:36 2024
    On 14/07/2024 1:48 pm, petrolcan wrote:
    In article <5b7ff8e5f6bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham says...

    In article <v6q3ac$2rau5$1@dont-email.me>,
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

    (For instance right wing nutters here in New Zealand wear MAGA caps
    etc. <shakes head in despair>)

    This is somehow supposed to fix the none existent climate crisis.

    That line ^^ pretty much invalidates anything else you have written.

    And I'm not talking about the spelling.


    Surely pretty much every line with there misrepresentation, extreme extrapolations, and conservative bigotry got it before the last line.

    geoff

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  • From Bob Latham@21:1/5 to Geoff on Sun Jul 14 11:27:01 2024
    In article <v6vrpe$1h59$1@dont-email.me>,
    Geoff <geoff@geoffwood.org> wrote:
    On 14/07/2024 1:48 pm, petrolcan wrote:
    In article <5b7ff8e5f6bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham says...

    In article <v6q3ac$2rau5$1@dont-email.me>,
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

    (For instance right wing nutters here in New Zealand wear MAGA caps
    etc. <shakes head in despair>)

    This is somehow supposed to fix the none existent climate crisis.

    That line ^^ pretty much invalidates anything else you have written.

    And I'm not talking about the spelling.


    Surely pretty much every line with there misrepresentation, extreme extrapolations,

    You think seeing thousands of terrorist supporters and leftists
    acolytes openly racist and calling for genocide of a people is a misrepresentation? It isn't about the plight of Muslims being killed
    by the way, there are many places in the world where Muslims are
    being slaughtered in far larger numbers and have been for many, many
    years with no protests. Why?

    The problem here is simply that it's the Jews and hatred of them,
    it's racism. And Jews fighting back after the indescribable horror of
    last October that started all this. The Palestinians knew full well
    what was being planned, the military tunnels and bases under
    hospitals etc. they knew. They are culpable.

    Where the west and Israel use arms to protect people, This lot use
    people to protect arms.

    -

    and conservative bigotry got it before the last line.

    Quoting ministers. Is that that extreme now? OK.

    :-)

    I am aware of and sympathise with, people who have feelings more
    associated with the opposite gender. I hold no malice for them or
    anyone and I wish them well. If someone called John asks me to call
    him Susan I'm happy to do that but if someone asks me the gender of
    the person with a beard and a dress on, I will not deny objective
    truth or common sense. Men cannot give birth, Women don't have a
    penis.

    If KNOWING that for 99.99999999% of the population there are xx and
    xy types and no amount of surgery, drugs, lippy and high heels will
    change that. Sex is immutable. You are born a sex and you will die
    the same sex.

    Gender used to be and still is a word that means sex. I recently
    applied for a new driving licence and in a pull down menu it asked my
    gender. When I saw that, I thought "here we go" but no, to my relief
    the UK still has male and female gender licences.

    So if that objective truth makes me a bigot, I'm proud to plead very,
    very guilty as charged. The left's name calling behaviour has no
    effect anymore, we see it for what it is. I only wish I had the word
    skills and courage of J.K. Rowling.


    As regards the climate, try as I might I cannot find ANY evidence of
    a crisis. Once your remove the 'urban heat island effect' what's left
    is easily explained by cloud cover and natural cycles plus the odd
    natural event like volcanos. Climate change is about politics not
    science. Nothing is happening to our climate that hasn't happened
    several times in the last 2000 years and to more extreme.

    Predictions for all the great and good for 50 years always, always,
    ALWAYS, always come to nothing. Even single prediction total nonsense.
    Polar bears - fine, great barrier reef absolutely fine.

    Repent, repent, the end is nigh!

    It's interesting that there is one climate model that isn't producing
    absurd predictions and that one is I think Russian but it's secret is
    that it understands the saturation of the CO2 heat absorption. It
    doesn't see CO2 as the temperature control knob.

    The ACC narrative has led to the corruption of science, kids are now
    taught that Venus is very hot because it has a 95% CO2 atmosphere and
    had runaway greenhouse gas effect.
    The level of ignorance to think that is staggering.

    The agenda is happy to teach that utter nonsense to innocent children.

    Far too many cars, gas boilers and farting cows I suppose.:-)


    It is indeed very sad and worrying that supposedly rational people
    can demonise CO2 a trace gas 0.04% essential to life. To do so they
    ignore history, and rational scientists and common sense.

    We now live in the age of endarkenment, Facts don't matter any more
    it's only feelings and axiomatic feelings that all "good people"
    should have. Burning witches starts soon.

    So carry on call me whatever names you like. Don't care I'm done with
    bothering about childish name calling.


    Bob.

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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to BOB LATHAM on Sun Jul 14 08:09:00 2024
    A subset of the above "Queers for Palestine" don't seem to have any
    clue what would happen to them were they to visit their beloved
    Palestine. Getting thrown off the roof of a building or hanged from a
    crane is the normal response. Turkeys voting for christmas.

    Some people get so caught up in being politically correct (or just feeling
    like they are in the right) that they don't think things through.

    Our new Energy minister shuts down our North sea oil and gas
    exploration in favour of transporting fuels from distant countries at
    greater expense and increased CO2 output. In so doing costing
    thousands of UK jobs and destroying our energy independence and
    supply security. Thinks he can do netzero by 2030.

    Making fuels too expensive is one way to force people to stop using them.
    Not a good way, but it is a way.


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  • From Bob Latham@21:1/5 to shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com on Mon Jul 15 09:09:04 2024
    In article <v71ul3$gn1d$1@dont-email.me>,
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 14/07/2024 1:48 pm, petrolcan wrote:
    In article <5b7ff8e5f6bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham says...

    In article <v6q3ac$2rau5$1@dont-email.me>,
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

    (For instance right wing nutters here in New Zealand wear MAGA caps
    etc. <shakes head in despair>)

    This is somehow supposed to fix the none existent climate crisis.

    That line ^^ pretty much invalidates anything else you have written.

    And I'm not talking about the spelling.

    That's a part of the reason that he's in my killfile. I've not seen
    a post of his (other than replies to him) for years.

    :-)

    Scared of the truth obviously.

    The modern left are bathed in luxury beliefs. Beliefs that only first
    world people and a subset of spoilt and privileged people within that
    can hold.

    They care not for the poor, infact the left, certainly in the UK
    despise the working people that gave their "Labour" party its name.
    Such is the betrayal.

    You can see it for example in netzero where only the privileged
    demand this knowing that proportionally it is the poor that will pay
    for their ridiculous wet dream fantasy.

    Leftists only work well in echo chambers where their nonsense is
    reinforced and never challenged.

    Bob.

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