• Re: I didn't see this coming

    From -hh@21:1/5 to chrisv on Wed Jul 31 15:48:14 2024
    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    -hh wrote:

    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    The stabbing murderer of three children in Southport, England is...
    black. The child of Rwandan immigrants. The victims were all white.

    I suppose he was "repressed" in England, such a "horrible, racist"
    place, compared to Rwanda. It's been at a good thirty years since
    more than 800,000 ethnic Tutsi and Hutu people were killed in a
    genocide, there.

    It's not being investigated as terrorism, though. No sir.

    Unfortunately, UK is having a lot of troubles with right wing based
    violence directed against ‘others’

    Really? Anything comparable to stabbing 11 children, three of them to
    death?


    That’s a false equivalencies attempt, because such behaviors are invariably
    a sudden lashing out at what was due to a long accumulation of many lesser aggressions. You’ve certainly heard the term “[the] straw that broke the camel’s back”.

    Case in point, Stephen Paddock (FYI, a white guy) opened fire on a Las
    Vegas Strip crowd in 2017, killing 60 people outright and wounding 413
    more. Why? We still don’t know for sure just what his specific beef was.

    -hh

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to Borax Man on Wed Jul 31 15:41:35 2024
    Borax Man wrote:

    chrisv wrote:

    The stabbing murderer of three children in Southport, England is...
    black. The child of Rwandan immigrants. The victims were all white.

    I suppose he was "repressed" in England, such a "horrible, racist"
    place, compared to Rwanda. It's been at a good thirty years since
    more than 800,000 ethnic Tutsi and Hutu people were killed in a
    genocide, there.

    It's not being investigated as terrorism, though. No sir.

    I kind of figured it would be something like that, when the media was
    cagey about his description.

    It should go without saying, but if the races were reversed, we would
    know exactly who the killer is, and immediately.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to -highhorse on Wed Jul 31 15:39:57 2024
    -highhorse wrote:

    Unfortunately, UK is having a lot of troubles with right wing based
    violence directed against ?others?

    Really? Anything comparable to stabbing 11 children, three of them to
    death?

    ThatÆs a false equivalencies attempt, because such behaviors are invariably

    Invariably? Really? Or did you just make that up?

    a sudden lashing out at what was due to a long accumulation of many lesser >aggressions. YouÆve certainly heard the term ô[the] straw that broke the >camelÆs backö.

    -highhorse defends a child murderer! With pure conjecture!

    "Whitey was mean to him!"

    Case in point, Stephen Paddock (FYI, a white guy) opened fire on a Las
    Vegas Strip crowd in 2017,

    Idiot.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to chrisv on Wed Jul 31 17:01:31 2024
    On 2024-07-31 4:39 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    -highhorse wrote:

    Unfortunately, UK is having a lot of troubles with right wing based
    violence directed against ?others?

    Really? Anything comparable to stabbing 11 children, three of them to
    death?

    That’s a false equivalencies attempt, because such behaviors are invariably

    Invariably? Really? Or did you just make that up?

    Wow, hh- is an insufferable cretin. Rather than demonstrate any shred of sympathy for the victims of yet more Muslim violence, he just goes on
    with his defense of the progressive agenda. I cannot imagine a more
    miserable twat.

    a sudden lashing out at what was due to a long accumulation of many lesser >> aggressions. You’ve certainly heard the term “[the] straw that broke the
    camel’s back”.

    -highhorse defends a child murderer! With pure conjecture!

    "Whitey was mean to him!"

    Case in point, Stephen Paddock (FYI, a white guy) opened fire on a Las
    Vegas Strip crowd in 2017,

    Idiot.

    You are correct, sir.


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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to chrisv on Wed Jul 31 20:34:48 2024
    chrisv wrote:

    It should go without saying, but if the races were reversed, we would
    know exactly who the killer is, and immediately.

    Oh, and the protests would be *far* more extensive and violent.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to chrisv on Thu Aug 1 08:12:21 2024
    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    -highhorse wrote:

    Unfortunately, UK is having a lot of troubles with right wing based
    violence directed against ?others?

    Really? Anything comparable to stabbing 11 children, three of them to
    death?

    That’s a false equivalencies attempt, because such behaviors are invariably

    Invariably? Really? Or did you just make that up?

    Do you prefer “inevitable” instead?

    Point is that such behaviors aren’t purely random, but have a backstory
    that helps to explain/understand the motivation of the person who ‘snapped’. If you have a better one/two word summary descriptor in your vocabulary, then offer it and I’ll consider using that term instead.

    a sudden lashing out at what was due to a long accumulation of many lesser >> aggressions. You’ve certainly heard the term “[the] straw that broke the >> camel’s back”.

    -highhorse defends a child murderer! With pure conjecture!

    Nope: I’m seeking to understand their action, so that similar tragedies
    can be prevented. If you’re not doing this, you’re


    "Whitey was mean to him!"

    Simply look at how triggered you get whenever I tell you how dumb you’re being - when will you “crack” and become violent?

    Or have you already done so, but vented by breaking a keyboard (or hit
    your wife/kid/something else within your grasp) which COLA readers don’t necessarily know about?

    Case in point, Stephen Paddock (FYI, a white guy) opened fire on a Las
    Vegas Strip crowd in 2017,

    Idiot.

    You’re not disputing that this white guy deliberately murdered dozens of folks.
    So why are you defending of this mass-murdering white guy’s act?

    Do you have any reasonable explanation for him snapping? Would doing so
    also be “defending” in your hypocritical eyes? Why not?

    Or are you really going to try to dodge that by claiming that there was no cause, but it was purely 100% random? The latter would be a dangerously slippery slope because you’re going to be forced to admit then that there’s no such thing as “good guy with a gun”, which then has ramifications on the 2A.

    Good luck!

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Thu Aug 1 08:26:20 2024
    CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2024-07-31 4:39 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    -highhorse wrote:

    Unfortunately, UK is having a lot of troubles with right wing based
    violence directed against ?others?

    Really? Anything comparable to stabbing 11 children, three of them to >>>> death?

    That’s a false equivalencies attempt, because such behaviors are invariably

    Invariably? Really? Or did you just make that up?

    Wow, hh- is an insufferable cretin. Rather than demonstrate any shred of sympathy for the victims of yet more Muslim violence, he just goes on
    with his defense of the progressive agenda. I cannot imagine a more
    miserable twat.

    Nah, what’s insufferable is to tell you that UK news has already reported that the stabber wasn’t a Muslim, but a Christian.


    “This attack [on a Southport Mosque] was spurred by false reports on social media that wrongly named the attacker as a Muslim.”

    <https://religionmediacentre.org.uk/news/religion-news-31-july-2024/>

    Before you fein more outrage, go find better sources for your news.


    -hh

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Aug 1 07:12:30 2024
    -hh wrote:

    (verbose claptrap snipped, unread)

    It's the -highhorse gazette!

    Page 11 has a short article about an Muslim African slaughtering
    innocent children.

    Page 1 has the bold headline "The trouble with White Christians in
    England"

    What an *asshole*. Defending a child murderer. Try to imagine the
    barbarity of stabbing with a knife, trying to kill, a dozen children.
    The cowardice. The depravity.

    But -highhorse will defend him. With zero evidence, he imagines an understandable "lashing out" due to "aggressions" from whites.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to chrisv on Thu Aug 1 19:55:54 2024
    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    -hh wrote:

    (verbose claptrap snipped, unread)

    It's the -highhorse gazette!

    Page 11 has a short article about an Muslim African slaughtering
    innocent children.

    No, you are lying:

    “This attack [on a Southport Mosque] was spurred by false reports on social media that wrongly named the attacker as a Muslim.”

    <https://religionmediacentre.org.uk/news/religion-news-31-july-2024/>

    What part of “wrongly accused” do you not understand little boy?



    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Aug 2 08:34:00 2024
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
    CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2024-07-31 4:39 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    -highhorse wrote:

    Unfortunately, UK is having a lot of troubles with right wing based >>>>>> violence directed against ?others?

    Really? Anything comparable to stabbing 11 children, three of them to >>>>> death?

    That’s a false equivalencies attempt, because such behaviors are invariably

    Invariably? Really? Or did you just make that up?

    Wow, hh- is an insufferable cretin. Rather than demonstrate any shred of
    sympathy for the victims of yet more Muslim violence, he just goes on
    with his defense of the progressive agenda. I cannot imagine a more
    miserable twat.

    Nah, what’s insufferable is to tell you that UK news has already reported that the stabber wasn’t a Muslim, but a Christian.


    “This attack [on a Southport Mosque] was spurred by false reports on social media that wrongly named the attacker as a Muslim.”

    <https://religionmediacentre.org.uk/news/religion-news-31-july-2024/>

    Before you fein more outrage, go find better sources for your news.


    Speaking of which, more evidence of what fools are getting sucked in by propaganda:

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13695801/The-Russian-linked-fake-news-website-fuelled-lies-Southport-stabbings-sparked-violent-protests.html>

    -hh

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Aug 2 06:33:17 2024
    -hh wrote:

    (snipped, unread)
    Speaking of which, more evidence of what fools are getting sucked in by >propaganda:

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13695801/The-Russian-linked-fake-news-website-fuelled-lies-Southport-stabbings-sparked-violent-protests.html>

    I heard about that misinformation, but the truth is bad enough.

    Response to be deleted, unread. There's nothing more to say.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to chrisv on Fri Aug 2 07:58:08 2024
    chrisv wrote:

    -hh wrote:

    (snipped, unread)
    Speaking of which, more evidence of what fools are getting sucked in by >>propaganda:
    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13695801/The-Russian-linked-fake-news-website-fuelled-lies-Southport-stabbings-sparked-violent-protests.html>

    I heard about that misinformation, but the truth is bad enough.

    Response to be deleted, unread. There's nothing more to say.

    I thought of something else to say. 8)

    Most initial reporting referred to the killer only as "a man".

    Maybe disinformation wouldn't gain traction and conspiracy theories
    wouldn't arise, if the authorities and the press weren't always trying
    to hide the truth, the "sensitive information", from the public.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to chrisv on Fri Aug 2 19:21:22 2024
    On Fri, 02 Aug 2024 07:58:08 -0500, chrisv wrote:


    Most initial reporting referred to the killer only as "a man".

    Maybe disinformation wouldn't gain traction and conspiracy theories
    wouldn't arise, if the authorities and the press weren't always trying
    to hide the truth, the "sensitive information", from the public.


    The most egregious example was during the Beltway Sniper incident when
    Moose didn't think it worth mentioning the suspects were black.

    It's also worth noting the Malvo and his mother were participants in the
    Border Patrol's catch'n'release program. Many people would still be alive
    if they'd sent him back to Jamaica.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to chrisv on Fri Aug 2 20:36:25 2024
    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    chrisv wrote:

    -hh wrote:

    (snipped, unread)
    Speaking of which, more evidence of what fools are getting sucked in by
    propaganda:

    <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13695801/The-Russian-linked-fake-news-website-fuelled-lies-Southport-stabbings-sparked-violent-protests.html>

    I heard about that misinformation, but the truth is bad enough.

    Response to be deleted, unread. There's nothing more to say.

    I thought of something else to say. 8)

    Most initial reporting referred to the killer only as "a man".

    Maybe disinformation wouldn't gain traction and conspiracy theories
    wouldn't arise, if the authorities and the press weren't always trying
    to hide the truth, the "sensitive information", from the public.

    Except it wasn’t “the press” keeping a secret: the perp is a minor, and under British law, minors are a protected class. That’s why certain information has been withheld by the police.

    The disinformation propaganda is exploiting this legal nuance and is making things up which is designed to foment division and violence. That’s why a bunch of UK dumbfucks were convinced by propaganda lies that he was a
    Muslim, so they went & attacked a mosque, even though the perpetrator reportedly is Christian, and from a country that’s majority Christian (just 2% Muslims).


    -hh

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