Nearly everyone has now heard of The Illuminati. Are they just a story that has grown wings or do they currently exist? There is no doubt that the Bavarian Illuminati existed, so we won't discuss them. What is in question is whether they are in existence and active in the present day. I would ask, let's say they do exist---then what are their goals? Secret societies have to have secrets right? So what are their goals and purpose of being in existence? Do they pose a threat to anyone? Where do they operate from? Who runs the Society? And what is their end game?

Perhaps they do not currently exist and its just a media thing, where they say that they exist just to publish content and sell rag magazines... Maybe they do exist and they are hiding in the public, not being able to be detected due to the massive rubbish in print about them, making their investigation of, and discussion of, basically vorboden. No one wants to be the conspiracy kid in the corner with no friends.

Now lets say that they do exist... why are they in existence and what are they doing? Whatever their purpose is, it is understood that they are up to no good. What kind of no good are they up to specifically? Historically, they were wanting to overthrow all governments, all religion, and unite the world into a new world order, centralizing disparate groups into a single all-powerful union of the ages. That would certainly qualify them as being evil.

What do you think? It all the bluster just a parlor game or something real, in actual existence? Lets say they exist and also consider that they may not exist... what does that mean for the world? What is really going on here?

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What do you think? It all the bluster just a parlor game or something real, in actual existence? Lets say they exist and also consider that they may not exist... what does that mean for the world? What is really going on here?

There is evidence that the Freemasons exist(ed.) And there's speculation that the Freemasons are the founders of the Illuminati.

There's a creepy old building in my city that was once occupied by the Freemasons, and it appears as if it's been vacant for decades, but it's located in a place where is makes no sense for this type of property to just sit vacantly for so long (it's a spot that would be ideal for an investor, but it's simply not for sale!)

https://wnbf.com/spooky-an-exclusive-look-inside-binghamton-masonic-temple/

Nevermind what this bogus news article says about it (just check out the photos.) It says that someone bought it for $7500 at an auction in 2015, but that is pure BS. 9 years later, it's still in the same condition as before, still not being used for anything, and the "investor" could have easily re-sold it by now for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I suspect that something goes on behind those closed doors, but I don't know what.

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There's a creepy old building in my city that was once occupied by the Freemasons, and it appears as if it's been vacant for decades, but it's located in a place where is makes no sense for this type of property to just sit vacantly for so long (it's a spot that would be ideal for an investor, but it's simply not for sale!)

https://wnbf.com/spooky-an-exclusive-look-inside-binghamton-masonic-temple

Long abandoned Masonic Temple are out there, often the population demographics change until they lack members to support what once had been an active center.

Masonic Activity is best thought of as several distinct yet overlapping activities under the same mantle. Some very community orientated (think Shriners Children's Hospitals), some a bit tree house club stuff (the main lodges), some very introspecitive & party orientated (ever see the purple motorcycles of the Jesters?) and some secret as they can manage (unknown purposes too).

In addition to Temples where Lodges meet they have some research centers, which seem to be private libraries.

So they certainly exist, but what they are depends on which part of the components activities you are looking at.

Seems a lot of "we don't have much money" while they might have reserves. Members are expected to pony-up dues which can vary depending how involved the member is.

They do take care of each other, which is typical of these sorts of organizations.

Oh, and they have youth & woman's parts.

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Masonic Activity is best thought of as several distinct yet overlapping activities under the same mantle. Some very community orientated (think Shriners Children's Hospitals), some a bit tree house club stuff (the
main lodges), some very introspecitive & party orientated (ever see the purple motorcycles of the Jesters?) and some secret as they can manage (unknown purposes too).

What do they all have in common though? Are they some sort of elitist group that tries to assemble the most intelligent members of a town?

I get that different chapters have different goals, but what is their common philosophy? Why do they call themselves "Masonic?" (They obviously aren't all masonry experts.)

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On 04 Sep 2024, shitty said the following...

Masonic Activity is best thought of as several distinct yet overlappi activities under the same mantle. Some very community orientated (th

What do they all have in common though? Are they some sort of elitist group that tries to assemble the most intelligent members of a town?

As they recruit for various sub-groups from many segments of society and it may be that not all members/sub-groups are fully "in the know," the commonality is perhaps pretty simple - that the overall organization influences all of the sub-groups.

Other than running membership programs, some with pledges and tasks, are they elitist? For many members perhaps no more elitist than the Boy Scouts - specially sub-groups like Boy Scouts "Eagle Scouts" and "Order of the Arrow?"

I get that different chapters have different goals, but what is their common philosophy? Why do they call themselves "Masonic?" (They
obviously aren't all masonry experts.)

Why must they have a uniform philosophy? Wouldn't syncopathic harmony offer more advantages?

There are lots of references on Masonic terms, names and origins, so perhaps it is time to go primary in your research?

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What do they all have in common though? Are they some sort of elitist group that tries to assemble the most intelligent members of a town?

As they recruit for various sub-groups from many segments of society and it may be that not all members/sub-groups are fully "in the know," the commonality is perhaps pretty simple - that the overall organization influences all of the sub-groups.

That explains it pretty good, and it's fine for people to belong to club or whatever, but it seems problematic for there to be an influence over a number of sub-groups.

Teacher unions are the same type of problem. They focus on the needs of their local chapters, but they share a common goal of electing Democrats, which is why I denounce them.

There are lots of references on Masonic terms, names and origins, so perhaps it is time to go primary in your research?

To each their own. I won't mess with them. I just hope that there's a person with a warm heart at the top of their pyramid.

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Teacher unions are the same type of problem. They focus on the needs of their local chapters, but they share a common goal of electing
Democrats, which is why I denounce them.

You expect them to support a party that regularly supports school
vouchers, forcing religion in schools, threatens to abolish the
department of education and has appointed an anti-public education
secretary of education?

Who else would they support?




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their local chapters, but they share a common goal of electing Democrats, which is why I denounce them.

You expect them to support a party that regularly supports school
vouchers, forcing religion in schools, threatens to abolish the
department of education and has appointed an anti-public education
secretary of education?

Who else would they support?

This is funny, I have read every post in this message base and as a 32nd Degree Scottish Right Mason, everything that has been said here it all untrue! Join a lodge and find out for yourself.

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Teacher unions are the same type of problem. They focus on the needs their local chapters, but they share a common goal of electing Democrats, which is why I denounce them.

You expect them to support a party that regularly supports school
vouchers, forcing religion in schools, threatens to abolish the
department of education and has appointed an anti-public education
secretary of education?

That might be a regional thing. I don't hear Republicans talking about any of those issues in my area. I've heard them refer to "school choice" but not around here.

Teacher unions shouldn't support any party, regardless of how the party affects them. When teacher unions support a party, they're literally forcing taxpayers to support a particular party, and that's not fair. Especially not when those taxpayers are also forced to live with the consequences that come along with that particular party (like stuff that doesn't have anything to do with education whatsoever.)

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Who else would they support?

This is funny, I have read every post in this message base and as a 32nd Degree Scottish Right Mason, everything that has been said here it all untrue! Join a lodge and find out for yourself.

Isn't it Scottish "Rite"? Right?

Interested in details about which Masonic directed observations you've found spurious?

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