• French make surprise arrest of Telegram Founder

    From poindexter FORTRAN@700:100/20 to All on Sun Aug 25 09:59:13 2024

    https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/08/shocker-french-make-surprise-arrest-of -telegram-founder-at-paris-airport/

    Late this afternoon at a Parisian airport, French authorities detained Pavel Durov, the founder of the Telegram messaging/publication service. They are allegedly planning to hit him tomorrow with serious charges related to abetting terrorism, fraud, money laundering, and crimes against children, all of it apparently stemming from a near-total lack of moderation on Telegram. According to French authorities, thanks to its encryption and support for crypto, Telegram has become the new top tool for organized crime.

    Next, the postal service, FedEx, and carrier pigeons to be arrested in a major sting operation.
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  • From roman@700:100/69 to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 26 11:57:14 2024
    The main Russian communications man has been arrested. There is hysteria in the Russian Federation, the entire army and all government services have used this dubious product.

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  • From Ogg@700:100/16 to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 26 20:41:00 2024
    Hello poindexter.FORTRAN!

    ** On Sunday 25.08.24 - 12:59, poindexter.FORTRAN wrote to All:


    Late this afternoon at a Parisian airport, French authorities detained Pavel Durov, the founder of the Telegram messaging/publication service. They are allegedly planning to hit him tomorrow with serious charges related to abetting terrorism, fraud, money laundering, and crimes against children,
    all of it apparently stemming from a near-total lack of moderation on Telegram. According to French authorities, thanks to its encryption and support for crypto, Telegram has become the new top tool for organized
    crime.

    I like what Durov's lawyer commented, (and I paraphrase) the
    arrest is akin to arresting the CEO of a major auto
    manufacturer for failing to prevent the vehicles being used for
    crimes, but that isn't happening.

    Besides.. how do the French authorities even know that their
    stated alleged crimes are being commited via the Telegram
    platform? You'd have to be a member of such alleged crime
    group to know such a thing.


    Next, the postal service, FedEx, and carrier pigeons to be arrested in a major sting operation.

    Another good point.. the mail system facilites many crimes too.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@700:100/20 to Ogg on Tue Aug 27 06:39:00 2024
    Ogg wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Besides.. how do the French authorities even know that their
    stated alleged crimes are being commited via the Telegram
    platform? You'd have to be a member of such alleged crime
    group to know such a thing.

    I've read the story of a sting operation in the US where the FBI created
    Anom, a messaging platform with hard keys and a back door, and arrested over 800 people using it. Very interesting read.

    https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/23/24163389/joseph-cox-dark-wire-fbi-phone-startup-anom-criminals-secure-messaging-decoder-interview



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  • From Ogg@700:100/16 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Aug 29 08:46:00 2024
    Hello poindexter.FORTRAN!
    I've read the story of a sting operation in the US where the FBI created Anom, a messaging platform with hard keys and a back door, and arrested over 800 people using it. Very interesting read.
    I forgot about that story. Apparenty it operated between 2018-
    2021. I thought it was primarily offered in some new "google-
    less" "tracking-less" phone.
    Was the app open source?
    Interesting recent book out about the sting operation:
    "The inside story of the largest law-enforcement sting
    operation ever, in which the FBI made its own tech start-up to
    wiretap the world, shows how cunning both the authorities and
    drug traffickers have become, with privacy implications for
    everyone.
    "In 2018, a powerful app for secure communications called Anom
    took root among organized criminals. They believed Anom allowed
    them to conduct business in the shadows. Except for one thing:
    it was secretly run by the FBI.
    "Backdoor access to Anom and a series of related investigations
    granted American, Australian, and European authorities a front-
    row seat to the underworld. Tens of thousands of criminals
    worldwide appeared in full view of the same agents they were
    trying to evade. International smugglers. Money launderers.
    Hitmen. A sprawling global economy as efficient and
    interconnected as the legal one. Officers watched drug
    shipments and murder plots unfold, making arrests without
    blowing their cover. But, as the FBI started to lose control of
    Anom, did the agency go too far?
    "A painstakingly investigated exposΘ, Dark Wire reveals the
    true scale and stakes of this unprecedented operation through
    the agents and crooks who were there. This fly-on-the-wall
    thriller is a caper for our modern world, where no one can be
    sure who is listening in.
    Dark Wire: The Incredible True Story of the Largest Sting
    Operation Ever | Hardcover
    Joseph Cox
    PublicAffairs | PublicAffairs True Crime / Cybercrime /
    Computers / Internet - Online Safety & Privacy / Political
    Science / Law Enforcement
    Published Jun 4, 2024 | Sales (#4505)
    $32.00 US / $41.00 CA list price
    https://bookshop.org/a/93260/9781541702691 https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781668641606-dark-
    wire?bookstore=ashlies
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  • From Amessyroom to All on Thu Sep 5 23:03:09 2024
    Re: Re: French make surprise arrest of Telegram Founder
    By: Ogg to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Aug 29 2024 08:46 am

    I've read the story of a sting operation in the US where the FBI created
    Anom, a messaging platform with hard keys and a back door, and arrested
    over 800 people using it. Very interesting read.
    I forgot about that story. Apparenty it operated between 2018- 2021. I thought it was primarily offered in some new "google- less" "tracking-less" phone.
    Was the app open source?
    Interesting recent book out about the sting operation: "The inside story of the largest law-enforcement sting operation ever, in which the FBI made its own tech start-up to wiretap the world, shows how cunning both the authorities and drug traffickers have become, with privacy implications for everyone.
    "In 2018, a powerful app for secure communications called Anom took root among organized criminals. They believed Anom allowed them to conduct business in the shadows. Except for one thing: it was secretly run by the FBI.
    "Backdoor access to Anom and a series of related investigations granted American, Australian, and European authorities a front- row seat to the underworld. Tens of thousands of criminals worldwide appeared in full view of the same agents they were trying to evade. International smugglers. Money launderers. Hitmen. A sprawling global economy as efficient and interconnected as the legal one. Officers watched drug shipments and murder plots unfold, making arrests without blowing their cover. But, as the FBI started to lose control of Anom, did the agency go too far?
    "A painstakingly investigated exposΘ, Dark Wire reveals the true scale and stakes of this unprecedented operation through the agents and crooks who were there. This fly-on-the-wall thriller is a caper for our modern world, where no one can be sure who is listening in.
    Dark Wire: The Incredible True Story of the Largest Sting Operation Ever | Hardcover
    Joseph Cox
    PublicAffairs | PublicAffairs True Crime / Cybercrime / Computers / Internet - Online Safety & Privacy / Political Science / Law Enforcement Published Jun 4, 2024 | Sales (#4505)
    $32.00 US / $41.00 CA list price https://bookshop.org/a/93260/9781541702691 https://libro.fm/audiobooks/9781668641606-dark- wire?bookstore=ashlies
    Darknet Podcast interviewed the author

    https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/146/